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Welcome to Wessex Scene’s live coverage of the first debate between US presidential candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Our team of writers is working through the night to bring you all the latest development as they break. We’ll also be fact checking the candidates to see how truthful the claims are.
You can also get updates on Twitter @WSPolitics.
Donald Trump has just arrived and has entered the building, still no sign of Hillary Clinton.
Tonight is the first night we see Clinton against Trump head on. It has been a long time coming and I cannot wait for it to start. We will be fact checking both sides as well as updating you all on what is happening as it happens with some nuance thrown into the mix! In the mean time check out other articles on the site covering the election for the last 12 months such as A Look Across the Pond series
Worth noting Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson (who is third most popular but didn’t reach the 15% polling required to be included in the debate) is running his own Facebook live stream with Reason magazine tonight in an attempt to make his voice heard.
— Gov. Gary Johnson (@GovGaryJohnson) September 26, 2016
Hillary Clinton arrives at Hofstra.
Nearly time folks, Clinton has arrived and will be joining Trump on stage in about 20 minutes
Clinton is accompanied by husband and former President Bill Clinton, whose appearance at the debate was unsure until this evening.
Audience being briefed on the ground rules: “no clapping, no cheering, no booing”
2 minutes to go… grab your popcorn and watch the most anticipated presidential debate for many, many years…
Moderator Lester Holt has taken to the stage
And. Here. We. Go.
First section focussing on Economics and Employment
First topic: Why are you the best choice for creating more jobs? Hillary is first to answer, says we need “good jobs with rising incomes”
Clinton wants to build an economy that works for everyone not just the top. “I want to invest in you, in your future” Small business, clean energy, raising the national wage, equal pay etc
Clinton appealing to the forgotten Middle Lower class in America wanting to help with paid leave and sick days as well as increase tax on the wealthy
Clinton: the wealthy will pay their fair share and I will close corporate loopholes
At various points during her campaign, Hillary Clinton has been criticised for the incorrect comment that “Americans haven’t had a raise in 15 years” – when the latest numbers from the US Bureau of Labour Statistics show that they have gone up 9% since 2001. Can Mrs Clinton stick to the facts tonight?
Trump starts off speaking about China and Mexico taking American Jobs and expanding their piggy banks
“have to stop our jobs from being stolen, our companies from leaving the country and firing their employees” and as per the campaign lots of Mexico and China references as well as Reagan comparisons
Clinton condemns Trump’s growth plans as “trumped up”.
Trump “my father gave me a very small loan”
Trumps key point is that the tax in Mexico works against America and its economy saying “Why hasn’t Clinton done more before now?”
Regarding Trump’s statement on Ford: although some manufacturing is moving to Mexico the Detroit pkant will now make more profitable larger vehicles with no job cuts.
Trump has so far focussed on Mexico’s impact on US Economics, Clinton focussed on the impact on the Middle class
Trump admits to wanting the market to crash so he can buy up land for cheaper, he interjects with “that’s just business”
According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump’s “very small loan” from his father was at least $1 million.
Trump says green energy policies are too expensive for America’s current situation
Clinton has only been in office 16 years, not 30 as Trump says.
Trump says “he can bring back jobs” earlier saying he couldn’t bring back jobs just not let them leave
and now it starts getting fiery on the policies of Bill Clinton
It’s notable that the Democrat on stage, Hillary Clinton, is the one defending free trade.
Worth noting Trump refused the claim he denied climate change on stage.
Trump claiming Clinton has no plan for the economy
Hillary Clinton did once, a long time ago, call the TPP “gold standard” as Trump claims – but is changing your mind suddenly not allowed?
Trump: “My tax cut is the biggest since Ronald Reagan”.
An NYU study suggests middle class families would end up paying more.
Trump claims his policies would create “a tremendous number of jobs”
Not sure about using Hillary Clinton’s own website as a Fact Checker – no bias there!
All this talk of tax but all I can think is Donald, where is your tax returns…?
Hillary plugs her real-time Trump fact checker. Would you trust it?
Clinton again reassures her plan to raise tax on the wealthy, appealing to Bernie fans?
Trump accuses Hillary of “fighting ISIS” her entire adult life. Big claim.
Clinton has been fighting ISIS her entire life according to Trump…
Trump calling for tax cuts on the wealthy “apparently the wealthy would create jobs” or expand his pockets after 8 years..?
ISIS has only existed for four years…
Clinton “I feel like by the end of this evening I will be blamed for everything” Trump “Why not?”
An analysis by FiveThirtyEight suggests Trump is $1.8 trillion short of being able to pay for his tax cuts.
Trump describing himself or a typical politician? hard to tell
Lester Holt pressuring Trump on his refusal to release his tax return. All the more relevant in light of today’s accusations about the Trump Foundation.
Trump claiming he would release them but he is under audit. IRS has told Trump that does not stop him from releasing them…
Holt fact checks Trump: being audited by the IRS does not prevent him from releasing his tax returns. Trump suggests he will release tax returns if Clinton releases emails from her private server.
The Clinton email scandal Trump refers to is Hillary’s “Achilles Heel” if you like –
Trump defends not paying tax “that makes me smart”
IRS chief executive says it is ‘incredibly rare’ for someone to be audited multiple years in a row by the IRS as Trump claims he has been if there are no issues after an audit.
Clinton “I made a mistake using a private email server… I take responsibility for that” Let us remember that Gov. Christie, Sarah Palin and current Secretary of State John Kerry all use their own private email
‘Bragadocious’ – pretty sure Trump just create his own word.
Trump claims US money has been ‘squandered’ on Clinton’s own ideas
Trump highlights the factual infrastructure problems and that money has been wasted. Clinton highlight he hasn’t contributed any federal tax to help anyways
Clinton highlights the workers who Trump refused to pay for their work after completion. Lower class workers are his main demographic but Trump defends this decision claiming “Maybe they did a bad job”
Doubts on Trump’s $800bn trade deficit claim.
“We used certain laws that are there”. Is this Trump admitting to tax avoidance!?
We don’t care about ‘Trump International’. Your priority, Mr Trump, as a Presidential nominee, should be your country.
next up, Race Relations… oh boy
Clinton acknowledges “race remains a significant challenge”. All the more poignant in light of recent events in Tulsa and Charlotte.
A lot of talk about America’s infrastructure tonight. Worth noting that the American Society of Civil Engineers gives America’s infrastructure a grade D+. More at http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/.
Clinton talking about the ‘Gun Epidemic’. Trumps response should be interesting
Trump says America needs “law and order” – words he accuses Hillary Clinton of being afraid of using.
“Law and Order” being repeated as a way of stop violence. Stop and Frisk included
Holt says Stop and Frisk has been ruled unconstitutional. Trump replies: “you’re wrong”.
“Judge was very against police judge” for saying Stop and Frisk was a form of racial profiling
Trump was indeed endorsed by the Fraternal Order of Police.
Stop and Frisk has been proven ineffective by some studies.
Trump talks about African Americans killing Police but not the other way round
An interesting article concerning the ineffective practice of ‘Stop & Frisk’ in New York https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/14/stop-and-frisk-new-york-conviction-rate
It’s a regrettable truth that 3,000 shootings took place in Chicago this year alone.
Clinton calling for “common sense gun laws” focusing on military style weapons on the streets and claiming in some cases “Police outgunned”
Clinton mentions she wants to end private prisons – interesting article here on how private prison companies are treated by the US government, including being sued for not filling cells.
Trump describes the NRA are “very good people” who protect the 2nd amendment.
Trump claiming Stop and Frisk worked in NYC. Previous post on here has already fact checked that
Trump says he admitted Obama was a US born citizen because he “wants to get on” with defeating ISIS.
Trump defending his Birther movement saying “he did a good job”
Clinton said that Trump was sued by the justice department for not wanting to rent his apartments to African Americans
Clinton’s claims that Donald Trump was sued in the ’70s for not renting to the African American community are true: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html?_r=0
Trump accuses Clinton of treating Barak Obama with “terrible disrespect” during debates with him.
Blatant lie there from Trump, who regularly creates propaganda with the intention of running down Hillary Clinton.
Next segment is “securing America” – now discussing cyber attacks
Cyber Warfare up next
True that Trump’s racial discrimination suit was indeed settled without admission of guilt.
Trump says “wrong” to Clintons statement that Trump has been praising Putin
Trump speaking about the Admirals and Generals who have endorsed him as well as border control agents
Trump alleged that an ex-Clinton campaign chief confirmed the Clinton campaign spread Birther rumours during the 2008 election. Clinton’s ’08 campaign chief denies those allegations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html
Bloomberg disputes Trump’s claim the Federal Reserve is politically biased.
Trump mentions US shouldn’t have been in Iraq but was in favour of the invasion and in favour of taking all their oil
Clinton’s efforts to disrupt ISIS’ propaganda online can be seen in more detail here: https://www.wired.com/2016/08/rukmini-callimachi-new-york-times-isis/
There is strong evidence that Donald Trump DID support the war in Iraq: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/23/trump-versus-clinton-a-debate-fact-check-cheat-sheet/
Clinton’s ambition to “vacuum up” intelligence will undoubtedly unnerve some after the Snowden revelations
Clinton correct that Bush signed the agreement to leave Iraq by 2012 http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf
Trump confusing hindsight with his own views at the time?
Trump’s stance on immigration could be more logical than first thought.
NATO a form of American protection? or an alliance of many nations
Trump supported the withdrawal of all US troops at the time
Frustrating tit-for-tat from Trump, taking away from the big issues – is Hillary even still there?
Trump’s early calm manner has gone. Back to the abrasive yelling Trump of the primaries. How long since Clinton has spoken?
You don’t have to be an expert to fact check THAT statement on temperament from Trump…
Trump now discussing his “winning temperament”, which he says is his strongest asset.
Trump claims he has the better of temperament of the candidates. Chuckles from Clinton and the crowd
Clinton talking a lot about Diplomacy. Claiming Trump can only use hard power not capable of Smart or Soft power
Trump says that blowing iranian boats out the water “Would not start a war”
Interesting info from Twitter: 60% of conversation in the first half of the debate was about Trump.
Trump AGAINST First Strike nuclear policy
Trump claims China and Iran “totally powerful” in relation to North Korea.
Interesting open letter to Trump on his “cavalier” approach to nuclear weapons.
Sending money to Iran is much more complicated than Trump claims.
Trump says Clinton “doesn’t have the stamina” to be president.
Holt asked Trump what he meant when he said Clinton didn’t have a “presidential look” – then got angry about not letting him answer the question when he started talking about “stamina”
Clinton’s 20 years in politics not stamina enough?
Clinton reminding the crowd of Trumps sexist comments. “I have never said that” – Trump
Trump did indeed call pregnancy an “inconvenience” back in 2004 – http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-2004-pregnancy-inconvenience-employers-n580366
Trump claims he was going to “say something rough” to Clinton and family, yet thought better of it.
Trump praising himself for not insulting Clinton and his family. Praise for taking the high road?
When asked whether he will accept the will of the voters, all Trump says is he wants to “make America great again”.
Later adds he will “absolutely support” a Clinton win.
And that is the end of the first debate! Join us again on October 9th for the next debate
Shouts of “Go Donald, we love you” as both candidates leave.