Washington University Presidential Debate – Live Blog

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Welcome to Wessex Scene’s live coverage of the second 2016 US Presidential debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, held at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri. We’ll be covering the debate blow by blow and fact checking the candidates’ statements.

We’ll also be providing updates on Twitter @WSPolitics.

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avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20161:34 am

Welcome to our coverage of the second presidential debate! We’ll be covering the buildup and the debate itself, which is scheduled to start 2am UK time.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20161:41 am

The second presidential debate is where things really get interesting, more so this year than ever before (I feel like I have used that phrase throughout the last year talking about this elections cycle). The nerves of the first debate are behind the candidates, the second debate often a more relaxed and open affair and usually more focussed on the issues. In 2012, Obama lost the first debate but it was the 2nd debate he clawed back to dominate Romney. What will we see tonight? Can Clinton convince those undecided voters? How will the latest Trump controversy effect his night? That and more tonight right here on Wessex Scene

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20161:44 am

Donald Trump has now arrived at the venue. According to CBS News, he has invited a number of women who claim to have been sexually abused by Bill Clinton, having chaired a round table discussion with them earlier today.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20161:50 am

Hillary Clinton has now arrived at the debate hall. The second debate will commence soon.

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20161:51 am
avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20161:52 am

Trump praised himself for not going low and using claims against Bill Clinton to put Hillary Clinton, today he has invited those claiming sexual assault against him to sit on the front row

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20161:53 am

Billy Bush, the presenter to whom Trump was seen making sexist comments in a controversial video released this week, has reportedly been suspended from the Today show.

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20161:57 am

Very bleak prediction from Sam Nunberg (Former Trump Strategist) on Trump’s chances for the election, following the controversial video leak this week.

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20161:59 am

Moderators Anderson Cooper (CNN) and Martha Raddatz (ABC) have taken to the stage.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20161:59 am

1 minute to go… grab your popcorn…

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20162:04 am

The three women invited by Trump who accuse Bill Clinton of sexual abuse are in the front row of the audience.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:04 am

Both candidates are surrounded by some level of newly emerged controversy. Trump with his sexist remarks on tape and Hillary with her conversation on Wall Street. This is a recipe for an eventful night.

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20162:04 am
avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:05 am

The candidates take the stage, the Town Hall debate begins

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:06 am

No handshake between candidates this time, all pleasantries have gone out the window since the first debate.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:07 am

First question to Clinton: Are the candidates showing the best behaviour for the american youth?

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:07 am

Hillary ‘we are going to respect one another, lift each other up and are looking for ways to celebrate our diversity.’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:08 am

HIllary ‘Making sure we have the best education system from pre-school to college and making sure it’s affordable’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:09 am

Trump “I agree with everything she [Clinton] said”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:09 am

Hillary ‘I want us to heal our country and bring us together’ Trump remarks that he actually agrees with everything Hillary Clinton says.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:09 am

Trump goes on to say he has met people from all over the country and has learnt from that. Once again he starts off calm in this debate

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:10 am

“Great trade deals, strong borders, law and order” Usual Trump rhetoric policy including working to help improve the lives for minorities to make american great again

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:11 am

Trump adamant his leaked tape was ‘Locker room talk’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:12 am

Deflecting questions of his leaked tape by talking about ISIS

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:12 am

Trump baits and switches the focus from his ‘locker room talk’ to ‘ISIS’ the link between which is unclear

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:12 am

“Nobody has more respect for women than I do”- Trump

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:12 am

Trump claims nobody has more respect for women than him.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:13 am

Other nations taking the jobs and wealth of the USA. De ja vu to the last debate

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:14 am

Hillary ‘I said starting back in June that he (Donald Trump) was not fit to be commander and chief of this country’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:14 am

Hillary ‘He has said that this video does not represent who he is but I think it is clear to anyone who has seen it that it does represent exactly who he is’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:15 am

Clinton saying that we weren’t surprised by Trumps leaked tape comments. Goes on to list other examples of Trump’s degrading of women throughout the last 12 months. “Yes this is who Donald Trump is”

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:16 am

Trump’s claims of Obamacare massively increasing premium costs, was only partially correct. The numbers carefully selected to emphasise his position. Full details at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/25/donald-trump/trump-obamacare-health-care-premiums-going-35-45-5/

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:16 am

Trump ‘It’s just words folks, it’s just words’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:17 am

Trump ‘I’m going to help the African-American’s, I am going to help the Latinos’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:17 am

Trump claiming the moderators are being unfair

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:18 am

Donald Trump repeats for the millionth time ‘That was locker room talk, I am not proud of it’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:18 am

Trump defends his tape by claiming Bill Clinton did actual actions not just talk

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:19 am

Trump on Bill Clinton ‘There has never been anyone in the history of politics that has never been as abusive to woman’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:20 am

Hillary ‘My friend Michelle Obama advised us all – When they go low, you go high’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:20 am

Clinton quoting Michelle Obama “When they go low, we go high”

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20162:20 am
avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:21 am

Hillary ‘Everyone can draw their own conclusions tonight about whether the man on the video or on stage respects women’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:21 am

Clinton pointing out that Trump never apologises for the hurtful words he uses. Or that he never answers the questions just using his own personal rhetoric

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:22 am

Trump – “Your campaign started [the birther movement]”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:23 am

Trump ‘Unlike the Bernie Sanders race which you did not win fair and square, just check wikileaks’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:23 am
Candidate Barack Obama Hillary Clinton
Home state Illinois New York
Delegate count 2,272½ 1,978
Contests won 33 23
Popular vote 17,584,692*<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008cite_note-thegreenpapers1-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[1] 17,857,501*<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008cite_note-thegreenpapers1-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[1]
Percentage 47.3% 48.0%

FLASHBACK to the results of the 2008 Democratic Primary

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:24 am
Candidate Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders
Home state New York Vermont
Delegate count 2,842 1,865
Contests won 34 23
Popular vote 16,914,722<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-popularvote-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[a]<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-tgp-estimate-2” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[1] 13,206,428<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-popularvote-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[a]<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-tgp-estimate-2” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[1]
Percentage 55.2%<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-popularvote-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[a] 43.1%<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016cite_note-popularvote-1” style=”color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;”>[a]

AND THE 2016 RESULTS

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:25 am

Trump remarks ‘You’d be in jail’ if he was in charge of the law in this country

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:25 am

Trump “You would be in jail” in response to Clintons statement that it is a good thing Trump is not in charge of nations justice system

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:26 am

Hillary ‘That was a mistake (emails) I take accountability for using a personal email account’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:27 am

Hillary ‘Misleading accusations from critics and others. After a year long investigation there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server she was using.’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:28 am

Trump – ‘I am so disappointed in congressmen for allowing this to happen including the republicans’

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20162:28 am

Trump counteracting accusations of discrimination.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:29 am

Trump back to interrupting the debate. Even after being told not to.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:29 am

‘Please allow her to response, she didn’t talk when you talked.’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:29 am

Trump refuses to stop interrupting

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:29 am

Trump claims that Clinton is trying to get away from her email question.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:30 am

Trump ‘Why aren’t you bringing up the emails’ yet the last question was directly about the emails and possibility of classified information being leaked.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:30 am

“Nice. 1 on 3” When he asked why Cooper was not bringing up the emails, Cooper’s response prior was, “Because you did”

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:30 am

Trump claims it’s a 3 on 1 debate.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:30 am

Trump ‘no I’m a gentleman Hillary, you go ahead’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:32 am

Hillary – ‘Before the affordable care act women use to be charged more than men. You can be on your parents policy up to 26’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:32 am

Hillary ‘Additional support to small businesses so they can afford to provide health insurance’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:32 am

FUN CONGRESS FACT: Republicans have repeatedly blocked attempts to amend the Affordable Care Act, they want it to fail so they can use it as a debating point.

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:32 am

Hillary ‘We’re at 90% health insurance coverage, that’s the highest we’ve been in our country’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:33 am

Trump – ‘Obama care is a disaster’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:33 am

Trump – ‘Obama care will never work. very bad health insurance. Far too expensive’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:35 am

Replaced by what, Mr Trump?

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:35 am

Hillary – ‘If we were to start all over again we might come up with a different system. we had an employer based system’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:36 am

“Lets fix what broken about it, not throw it all away and give it all back to the insurance companies” – Clinton

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:37 am

Hillary – ‘Obama care was to fill a slot for people working but still couldn’t afford insurance’

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20162:37 am

Clinton campaign alleges Trump would take health insurance away from 21 million Americans.

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:37 am

Trump claims that single-payer healthcare is ‘slow’ and ‘catastrophic’ in some elements. Citing Canada as an example. However, according to the World Health Organisation, the majority of single-payer systems provide better healthcare than the USA. http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:38 am

Anderson Cooper not pulling punches tonight, how will Trump handle this tonight?

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:38 am

‘Islamophobia on the rise, how will you deal with people like me being labelled as a threat to the country when the election is over?’ – Muslim audience member

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:39 am

Trump – ‘When people see something going on they need to report, muslims need to report the problems when they see them. If they don’t do that it’s a very difficult situation for our country’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:40 am

Trump – ‘She or president Obama won’t say the name Radical Islamic Terrorism’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:41 am

Clinton – “We’ve had muslims in american since George Washington and we have had very successful muslims. My vision of America is that everyone has a place in America… if they do their part”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:41 am

Hillary – ‘My vision of America is an America where everyone has a place if you are willing to work hard, you do your part and contribute to the community’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:41 am

Hillary – ‘We need American muslims to be apart of our eyes and ears on our front lines’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:42 am

We are not at war with Islam – Clinton

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:42 am

Hillary – ‘We are not at war with Islam and it is a mistake and plays into the hands of terrorist to act like they are’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:43 am

Captain Kahn would be alive today if Trump was president (Not invading Iraq)

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:43 am

Trump’s Muslim ban has changed to extreme vetting from people from certain areas around the world

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:44 am

Trump – ‘It’s called extreme vetting, they are coming in by the tens of thousands because of Obama and Clinton’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:45 am

Hillary – ‘I will not let anyone into our country who poses a threat to us.’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:45 am

The Government of Canada resettled 25,000 Syrian refugees between November 2015 and February 29, 2016

Obama wanted 10,000, Clinton wants 65,000
avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:45 am

Hillary – ‘We need to do our part (for the refugees)’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:46 am

Hillary – ‘We are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:47 am

Hillary – ‘We have it on tape (Donald Trump was for the war in Iraq)’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:47 am

Trump complaining about Clinton’s time management and being interrupted by the moderators. Ignoring his own interrupting of Clinton causing her to go over time

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:47 am

Trump – ‘I’m going to force them right back into their country, they are murderers and very bad people’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:48 am

Trump – ‘she wants amnesty for everyone, it’s a horrible thing she is doing’

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:49 am

Trump continuing to claim that he was always against the Iraq war, fact checkers have consistently shown that he was initially for intervention on Howard Stern’s show in 2002. He later did change his position. http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-iraq-war-buzzfeed-howard-stern-2002-hillary-clinton-matt-lauer-496783?rm=eu

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:49 am

Clinton asked to address recent wikilinks

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:50 am

Clinton – ‘It was about president Lincoln, after watching the film about him. I was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want them to do.’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:50 am

Clinton mirroring the official US Government claims that Russia has been hacking information and trying to influence the US Presidential Election

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:50 am

Clinton – ‘Russian’s hack information, we don’t even know if it is accurate information and then put it out’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:52 am

Trump – ‘I don’t know Putin but I think it would be great if we got along with Russia, I think we should fight ISIS together’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:54 am

Trump claiming the audits are stopping his release of his Tax returns, clearly missed this statement –http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/donald-trump-internal-revenue-service-audits/80996086/

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20162:55 am

Trump – ‘She’s been there for 30 years, she never will change’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20162:55 am

Trump has consistently said why didn’t Clinton change x when she was a senator. 1 Senator out of 100 in the Senate. Which is one of the Houses in Congress. Which is one branch of the US Government…

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:57 am

Trump claiming that he will decrease taxes on the middle class. This is untrue, his tax plan would cut taxes for the wealthy and increase them on the middle class. Many different analyses have shown this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/24/a-new-study-says-trump-would-raise-taxes-for-millions-trumps-campaign-insists-he-wont/

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20162:59 am

Another analysis that shows the same http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-correctly-cites-outside-analyses-t/

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:00 am

Again Donald, 1 Senator out of 100 in the Senate. Which is one of the Houses in Congress. Which is one branch of the US Government…

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:00 am

Trump – ‘She doesn’t do anything about anything but talk’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:00 am

Trump keeps referencing Bernie Sanders ‘Bad judgement’ remark

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:01 am

I’m gonna post this one last time… 1 Senator out of 100 in the Senate. Which is one of the Houses in Congress. Which is one branch of the US Government…

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:01 am

Hillary – ‘I will be the president that gets it done’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:02 am

Hillary – ‘8 million kids have health insurance because of her work, hundreds of thousands kids have the chance to be adopted now. After 9/11 help rebuild work. Advocating for womens right around the world’

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20163:03 am

Trump again blaming the Obama administration for leaving Iraq. This is incredibly reductive, he completely ignores that it was a deal signed by the Bush administration to leave Iraq by 2012: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:03 am

Hillary – ‘For 30 years I’ve produced results’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:05 am

Hillary – ‘Russia hasn’t paid any attention to ISIS they are interested in keeping Assad in power in Syria’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:06 am

Hillary – ‘I’ve stood up to Russia, I’ve taken on Putin and others and I will do that as president’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:07 am

Trump constantly interchanges Obama with Clinton in arguments. He knows his audience, Anti-Obama republicans

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:09 am

“You don’t know who the rebels are” – Trump

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:09 am

Trump – ‘I don’t like Assad at all but Assad is killing ISIS, Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS’ This is his response to a question about Syrian humanitarian aid plans.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:10 am

Trump praises Russia and Assad for killing ISIS, they are also fighting rebels in the country. He disagrees with his running mate over how to handle ISIS. Trump wants to go after them and kill them all

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:10 am

You don’t even know who ISIS are Trump

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:12 am

“Iraq is us, with our leadership” – Trump claiming a puppet government in Iraq?

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:12 am

“I would not use American Ground Forces in Syria.” – Clinton

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:13 am

Trump continues to interrupt Hillary, making snide remarks.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:13 am

“I will not use American Ground Troops in Syria.” – Clinton

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20163:14 am

Hillary Clinton is calling for investigations into Russia for war crimes however, America is in no position to call for any investigations into war crimes. Many war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan were covered up, as well as the torture campaign at Guantanamo Bay. The USA could also easily be investigated. https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/02/cia-sexual-abuse-torture-majid-khan-guantanamo-bay https://www.chelseamanning.org/news/what-did-wikileaks-reveal

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:14 am

Trump gaining claiming unfair treatment from the moderators

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:15 am

“Of course, she calls our people deplorables” and I call Mexicans rapists and criminals and say African-Americans live in hell

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:16 am

Trump blames Clinton for everything that Obama and Bill and Congress has ever done for the last 30 years. Does he realise they are not the same people?

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:17 am

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:18 am

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/785301685157695492 “Go to her website, her plan to fight ISIS is right there. SHE IS HELPING THE ENEMY”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:18 am

Hillary – ‘I want to make sure every American feels like they have a place here’

avatar Cameron Ridgway October 10, 20163:19 am
avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:20 am

Hillary – ‘If you don’t vote for me, I still want to be your president’

avatar Harry Placsom October 10, 20163:20 am

Trump correct that Hillary Clinton called TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) the ‘Gold-Standard’ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/13/hillary-clinton/what-hillary-clinton-really-said-about-tpp-and-gol/

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:21 am

Trump – ‘Believe me, she has tremendous hatred in her heart’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:22 am

Trump – ‘This country cannot take another four years of Barack Obama and that is what you are getting with her’

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:22 am

Trump – ‘No it wasn’t ‘check out her sex tape’ just to look at the person she was building up this woman to be’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:27 am

Clinton describing the supreme court she hopes for if she gets to appoint the the empty justice seat. A progressive vision for the Supreme Court

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:28 am

Trump looking to appoint a judge in the mould of Scalia. One of the most controversial and disliked Supreme Court Justices in American History

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:28 am

Trump claims the 2nd amendment is under siege from people “like Clinton”

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:28 am

Trump has been one of the first candidates to make money from running for president

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:29 am

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:30 am

Clinton – “I respect the 2nd amendment but I believe in better back ground checks and closing the loop holes”

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:32 am

‘I don’t know Putin … I know nothing about Russia’

Last November, Trump claimed in a debate that he “got to know [Putin] very well because we were both on 60 Minutes”. They appeared in separate, pre-taped segments of the current affairs show and were not on set together.

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:33 am

“For the first time we are energy independent” – Clinton

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:35 am

Could you name one positive thing you respect in one another? Interesting

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:35 am

Asked to name one positive thing they respect in one another

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:35 am

Hillary – ‘I respect his children, his children are incredibly able and devoted and that says a lot about Donald’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:35 am

Clinton – “I respect his children, they are able and devoted.”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:36 am

Clinton – One of the most consequential elections we’ve ever had

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:37 am

Trump – “She doesn’t quit. She doesn’t give up. I respect that. She is a fighter.”

avatar Freya Millard October 10, 20163:37 am

Trump – ‘She doesn’t quit, she doesn’t give up. I respect that. She’s a fighter, I disagree with much of what she is fighting for.’

avatar Tom Brown October 10, 20163:38 am

Clinton and Trump shake hands and that is the end of the debate. See you on the 19th October for the final Presidential Debate

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